WBCC Newsmail 153, Volume 4, July 17, 1999

Composed with help from members of the Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club (WBCC) and weekly published by Martin Peeters, Netherlands, Focal Point of the WBCC, martinp@westbrabant.net

Dear WBCC members and non WBCC members,

In about 3 weeks I will have my vacation, but as last year, Frans Dubois will publish the WBCC Newsmail during that time.
You will read more about in next WBCC Newsmail. Still in this quiet Bi-metallic-news-time, some Bi-metallic news to report.
I realy hope you enjoy reading it !!

1. New WBCC members....by Martin Peeters, WBCC Focal Point

We have 3 new member. The first 2 are the first twins who join the WBCC. Let me introduce all 3 to you:

Name: Arild Oyan (WBCC member #141), Norway
E-mail: arild.oyan@c2i.net
Age: 34
Profession: Sound recording and secretary works
Hobby: Most of the time used for coins.
Goal: To obtain a great coin collection as possible until I bemcome 50
Against: People who names coins as money

Name: Oddvar Oyan (WBCC member #142), Norway
E-mail: ooyan@eunet.no
Age: 34 Profession: Special adviser
Hobby: Coin collecting and chess playing
Goal: To collect as much coins from all around the worlrd from about 1600 util date as possible
Against: Insects - mosquits

Name: David Cox (WBCC member #143), USA
E-mail: dcox456973@aol.com
Age: 36
Profession: Mainframe computer tech
Hobby: I'm ecleptic, I collect everything, coins, banknotes, stamps, cars, cards,etc
Goal: To collect at least 1 coin & basnknote from every country, which would of course include an extensive bi-metallic issues, to assemble a complete High grade US coin set, assemble complete EURO coins sets from every country including lower denom notes, enjoy life. Against: Excess government spending,waste and intrusion of our rights.

2. Bi-metallic Isle Of Man and Gibraltar 2 Pound...by Martin Peeters

From Pobjoy England I received the following information about differences in the Isle Of Man and Gibraltar 2 Pounds:

In regards to the Isle Of Man Bi-metallic 2 Pound car coin, all coins without  are of proof quality and all with die markings ("AA") are circulating coins. In regards to the Gibraltar Bi-metallic 2 Pound coin which has two different sizes of the queens head this was due to a change of dies during a production run.

3. Bi-metallic MTT from Canada........by Peter Riley,

Canada There is an article in Canadian Coin News, volume 37, number 5 (June29-July12.1999), written by Jerry Remick. It states:
--Quote The first Bi-metallic trade tokens were issued in Canada late this spring by Kerrobert, Saskatchewan and by Nanaimo, British Columbia as part of their "off-metal" tokens, which are sold at a premium above their face value of $5. The final mintage is only 100, 38mm Bi-metallic tokens for each municipality. The designs for the token for each municipality will be described in a future article. The 38mm Bi-metallic planchet or blank consists of a brass coloured core, 25mm in diameter, made of an alloy of copper, nickel, and aluminum. The outer silver coloured ring, 6-1/2 mm in width, consists of copper-nickel. The Bi-metallic blanks were made in Europe. They were imported by Eligi Consultants Inc., who designed and administered the making of the tokens for the two municipalities issuing them. --Unquote --Remark Orders should be placed by fax at +1-613-823-3844. VISA and MASTERCARD are accepted. Eligi Consultants Inc. PO Box 11447 Station H Nepean, Ontario. K2H 7V1. Canada

4. Bi-metallic 2 Dollar Canada 1996...by Martin Peeters, Netherlands

As it is known now, the Canada Bi-metallic 2 Dollar 1996 Proof in Ag*Au/Au has on the Queens side the following lettering in centre '22 K CENTRE CENTRE 22C'. On the other hand the Piedford issue of 1996 does not have this lettering. I wonder if WBCC members can check their collection (1997, 1998) about this matter and report it to me (martinp@westbrabant.net), thanks. BTW the mentioned piece is now offered (ends: 07/20/99, 18:15:54 PDT) in the Ebay pages: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=131278540, for "only" 265 US Dollars !! --Remark Paul Baker, WBCC Research Centre: Latest SCWC does not mention these words - I would have thought it would have been rather correct in all aspects of recent Canadian coins - since Canada is next to U.S.A. (where SCWC comes from). Weltmunzkatalog 1996/97 (Schön) does seem to mention something about these words being on the gold pieces. Also since there are the extra words on this piece it will perhaps be renumbered to KM-270.1 instead of KM-270a or even a totally new number

5. Bi-metallic designs from the Netherlands.....by Martin Peeters

Last week I visited The Dutch Mint in Utrecht and took some pictures of the test designs od the future Bi-metallic 1 and 2 Euro.
The designs show all the Dutch Queen Beatrice but they didn't make it to the final design.
If you want to see those test designs, please take a look in the WBCC Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/7513/wbcc/wbcc.html

6. Meeting WBCC members...by Michael Doran, USA

In noticing in the WBCC Newmail 152 that Cliff Anderson will be at the ANA, I am announcing that I will be at the American Numismatic Association Convention on Friday, August 13th and Saturday, August 14th. It would be nice to see some of the members there. Any members needing information about Chicago should send me an e-mail (dorannumismatics@yahoo.com). I live only 60 miles (100km) south and I go there often.

7. Bi-metallics in Ebay...by Martin Peeters, Netherlands

A lots of Bi-metallics are offered in the Ebay pages.
When you open Ebay, (http://coins.ebay.com/) you will see a "search" field,
if you type: bimetal* or bi-metal* you can see them all.
Some notes: (to) much of Canadian 2 Dollar and Russian animals Bi-metallics are offered but also other Bi-metallics.
If you type: encased you will find a lots of Encased pieces.

8. New Bi-metallic images......by Rod Sell,

WBCC Homepage Provider New Bi-metallic images this week.

* 1904 Bi-metallic 1 Cent Patterns. * Netherlands 1 Euro & 2 Euro Test Patterns.
* 1 Euro & 2 Euro Test Patterns at the Netherlands Mint.
* Numismatic Portraits of Queen Beatrix at the Netherlands Mint
* Canadian Gold Proof $2 * USA 6 American Indian Bi-metallics
* English Model Penny with die crack on reverse
* English Model Penny Brass & White Metal centres, both with V close to neck.
The Brass Centre piece is coin alignment, whilst the white metal centre is medal alignment.
* Brazil 1998 1 Real
* Netherlands Wedding Token of Hille & Patricia 21st May 1999.

9. Bi-metallics from Kenya...by Bob Oehrig (Non WBCC member), USA

I have the following (Kenia):
* 5 shilling Bi-metallic 1995 and 1997
* 10 shilling Bi-metallic 1994, 1995 and 1997
* 20 shiliing Bi-metallic 1998
I also happen to have about 30 Bi-metallic coins from Syria, they are 25 lira coins mostly AU-BU condition (1995). If you have interest, please E-mail ma at: RJOEHRIG@aol.com

10. ANA World's Fair of Money®......by Larry Friemel, USA

Just a reminder that The ANA World's Fair of Money is being held in Chicago, Illinois on August 11-15, 1999 at the Rosemont Convention Center, 9301 West Bryn Mawr. I have arranged with the ANA to provide the WBCC a meeting place Saturday during the convention for anyone able to attend. It is no host -- so anyone making it there is on there own other than a room is available. The WBCC has been assigned room 9 in the convention center on Saturday, August 14 from 1:00 -2:30 p.m. I am unfamiliar with the area, but the AAA guide shows many hotels in the vicinity, as the convention center is near O'Hare Airport. For a listing of the scheduled events for the five days check out the ANA website at... http://www.money.org/annualcvnschchi.html For ANAs listing of hotels check out... http://www.money.org/cvnannualhotels.html The original survey about a year ago showed about 12 people interested in attending. I hope that they (and others) make it to share their Bi-metallic experiences. To the best of my knowledge, Cliff Anderson (WBCC Public Relation Centre, "(chander@mciworld.com) is attending and as such is the official WBCC board member in attendance.

11. WBCC CD ROM...by Joe Kocian, USA

I have the WBCC CD ROM completed. I will be adding a few current items but for all major purposes it is finished. Thanks to the assistance of Martin, and Larry and their contributions to the CD. I plan to have CD's for purchase in Chicago (ANA convention August 14th) but also through the mail for those who desire one that will not make the convention. Ok, the CD what is it? a. It is a compilation of the WBCC documentation of Bi-metallics coins with Graphics. b. The early Introduction and Use of Bi-metallics from Larry Friemel's "All That Is Bi-Metallic" webpage with graphics. c. It has the complete set of all WBCC Newsmails from beginning to current date. d. It has the catalog "The World Of Bi-metallics" on it. e. It has a super demo software program specifically designed for collectors. And it is all on one CD. Cost: This the best part, I made this for the WBCC members so cost is just to cover the expenses. By Mail: US$14.00 including shipping. At the Chicaco ANA show: US$12.00 I have received quite a number of requests for the CD. I am still going to send a personal note (application) to those that have notified me and requested a CD. However, I have been waiting to do it all at once. You may if you wish to get a jump on me here is a copy of what I (jkocian@cvi-usa.com) will eMail to each of you: Please send payment to: Joseph V. Kocian, 4178 Sherman Road, Kent, Ohio, 44240, USA. Include the following information: 1. Full Name 2. Company (If applicable) 3. Mail Address 4. City 5. State 6. Country 7. eMail Address Payment: Must be in US$, A check drawn upon any US Bank, International MO, or Cash US$ Note: I will try to send the CD's to arrive to you on the same dates of the ANA show.

"See" you next week,
Martin Peeters, Focal Point of the Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club martinp@westbrabant.net

The Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club was established September 14, 1996 and is the very first Worldwide Collectors Club using the Internet.
Goal of the WBCC is exchange Bi-metallics and exchange knowledge about Bi-metallics
WBCC Organisation:
WBCC Homepage Provider: Rod Sell, Australia, Rod.Sell@hlos.com.au
WBCC DoCu-Centre: Frans Dubois, Netherlands, dubois.f@wxs.nl
WBCC Public Relations: Cliff Anderson, USA, chander@mciworld.com
WBCC Research Centre: Paul Baker, UK, 113076.167@compuserve.com
WBCC Focal Point: Martin Peeters, Netherlands, martinp@westbrabant.net