WBCC Newsmail 429, Volume
9, October 30, 2004
Composed with help from
members of the
Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors
and weekly published by: Martin Peeters,
Netherlands, Focal Point of
Dear WBCC members and non WBCC members,
Welcome into the World of Bi-metallics. I hope you enjoy reading
Newsmail this week.
1. A new WBCC member.......by Martin Peeters, WBCC Focal Point
We have a new WBCC member. Let me introduce him to you:
Name: Krishnakumar Menon (WBCC member #354), India
Profession: Owns a Computer Firm
Hobby: World coins Bi-metallics and non Bi-metalic comemeratives, specialising
in Hole coins.
Goal: To become a Known Numismatist
How did I know about the WBCC:While Browsing the net for coins.
2. Bi-metallic coins from Turkey.......by Francisco Pascual, Spain
Here are the images of Bi-metallic Turkish 1 and 50 Yeni coin.
You can see here the rest of the new coins in the Dünya newspaper
WBCC member Hans Bucek added:
The full story on the new turkish Bi-metallic lira is the following:
From Dünya online news:
The new Turkish lira, set to begin officially circulating next year, has
been publicly unveiled by Central Bank Governor Sureyya Serdengecti at a
press conference today.
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, State Minister for the Economy Ali Babacan,
and Treasury Undersecretary Ibrahim Canakci were also present.
The new Turkish lira, which drops six zeros, is due to circulate together
next year alongside the old lira.
Serdengecti said that the New Turkish lira (YTL) had a number of security
features. "Turkey will remove six zeros from the current Turkish lira (TL)
by the end of 2004, which means 1 YTL note will be equal to 1 million TL
and 100 kurus will equal 1 YTL, and the YTL will go into circulation on Jan.
1, 2005", said Serdengecti. "YTL and current TL will be in joint circulation
during 2005 withthe TL being completely withdrawn from circulation by the
end of 2005. Therefore, the Turkish people will have enough time to become
familiar with YTL", he added. "In order to prevent any confusion and help
our citizens to become familiar with YTL, the new banknotes were prepared
in similar color, illustration and images as the TL banknotes. There are
distinctive features in YTL for the blind people," he stressed.
Yeni is the turkish word for NEW. So you say 50 yeni Kurush (new Kurush),
equal to 500'000 current circulating Lira and 1 yeni Lira (new Lira), equal
to 1'000'000 (one million) current circulating Lira or equal to about one
Euro in exchange.
3. Bi-metallic from Gibraltar..........by Manuel Gonzalez, Spain
Here is the image new Bi-metallic 2 Pound from Gibraltar 2004 "Capturing
4. Bi-metallic from Falkland Islands..........by Francisco Pascual,
New Bi-metallic 2 Pound 2004 of Falkland celebrating the "30th years of the
Falkland islands own coinage".
The coin is bi-metallic with the center of Cupro-nickel and the ring of Nickel-brass;
weight 12.00 grams and diameter 28.40mm
5. Bi-metallics dated 2004 for West African States.........by Paul
In WBCC Newsmail 383, Item 3, I detailed how the Central Bank of the West
African States had set 24/Dec/2003 as the release date for two new Bi-metallic
coin denominations - 200 and 500 Franc-CFA. Those first coins were indeed
released towards the end of 2003 and all were dated 2003. I got some of each
of these new West African States types in January 2004 from a contact of
mine in the region. In August 2004 that contact told me he had some 2004
dated pieces of the 200 and 500 Franc-CFA coins. Now I have got one of each
of these coins from him.
Surprise ! I found that these 2004 dated pieces are different to
those of 2003. The 2003 pieces had been the first West African States coins
to be without the privy marks of the French Mint. The (British) Royal Mint
in their annual report of 2003-04 confirmed, through images, that they had
struck the 2003 dated 200 and 500 Franc-CFA coins. This contract was the
main overseas circulating coinage contract to be mentioned in the report.
My 2004 dated pieces must have been made not by the (British) Royal Mint
but by the French Mint. They differ a little on each side - primarily through
the use of privy marks and designer's initials.
The designer's initials "RJ" (for Raymond Joly) have been added, for the
2004 dated pieces, next to the large fish weight image on the obverse. Then
on the reverse, of the 2004 dated pieces, the dash before the date has been
replaced by the cornucopia privy mark (for the mint) and the dash after the
date has been replaced by the privy mark of Hubert Larivière. This
new privy mark for the "Engraver General" was introduced on 1/Jul/2003. Mr
Larivière, the manager of the mint's engraving workshop formed his
privy mark from elements representing a French horn, a few waves and the
silhouette of a fish. Further info on these two privy marks can be seen at:
Other lesser differences can be seen between the 2003 and 2004 dated issues.
The font used for the main legends can be seen to vary slightly. One distinct
difference from one font to the next being that the "E" used on the 2003
dated pieces has a serif on the second horizontal stroke and that on the
2004 dated pieces does not have such a serif. The main images on these coins
also vary slightly from one date to the next, firstly through differences
generally in relief and secondly through several other very slight differences.
The clearest of these differences is to be seen on the 500 Franc-CFA coins.
The berries adjacent to the "5" in "500" are of much bolder dots on the 2004
dated pieces as compared to those on the 2003 dated pieces.
6. Bi-metallic inlay from the DDR........by Wladek Gebczyk, Poland
I have in my collection the Inlay Medal from DDR/ Germany:
diameter - 60 mm
material - white metal/ oxidized
Inlay - metal gold plated and enamelled
7. Bi-metallic Fantasy Euros.........by Jose Luis Ramirez, Spain
I have made a photograph to my 5 Europ coin from Iceland.
This morning I have received the Euro Fantasy set from Russia, yes the set
have two bimetallics. Tomorrow I will made the photos to the coins.
This set from Russia have a mistake on the word "patterns" that are printed
in the folder, the makers of the coins says patetrns, look at the image of
Cape Verde folder, is the same mistake. The set from Armenia have the same
mistake. The set from Ukraine are diferent. When I will receive the set from
Armenia and Ukraine, if these set have bimetallics I will send to you the
8. The WBCC Bi-metallic Quiz Game #429...by Jack Hepler, USA
The Bi-metallic Euro of which country includes the image of an owl?
Please send your answer to me: firstname.lastname@example.org
Note: The image of this coin may be seen on the WBCC Website at http://wbcc-online.com
Answer to Bi-metallic Quiz Game question #428.
The Bi-metallic Five Bolivianos of Bolivia includes the image of which of
the following plants?
a. Guacari Tree.
c. Arbol de Pan.
Answer to Question #428 is "c"; Arbol de Pan or Breadfruit Tree.
9. WBCC Quiz Game Prize...by Jack Hepler, USA
A Bi-metallic prize will be awarded to a member who correctly answers the
WBCC Quiz Game this week (#429). If more than one member gets the correct
answer, a random drawing will be conducted to select a winner. The winner
in quiz game #427 was Claudio Revello (member #207). There were
11 players in #427.
10. New Bi- or Tri-metallic images.......by Rod Sell, WBCC Webmaster
The new Bi- and Tri-metallic images shown at:
New listed are:
*Gibraltar 2004 2 pound
* Mexico 100 Peso Nuevo Leon
* East German inlay 60mm medal, gold plated and enamelled
* Russian Euro fantasy pattern
* Iceland 5 Euro fantasy pattern
* Turkey 2005 1YTL
* Thailand 10 bath 2004 200th birthday of Rama 4 (bald king on the right)
* Thailand 10 baht 2003 Rama 9 coin for the fight to be free of Drugs (king
on the left)
* Turkey 2005 50 KurusGB 2005 2Pounds
11. Bi-metallic fron Iran...by Kazem Aghapour, Iran
If you intrested to Iranian new Bi-metallic 500 rls, I can offer you in very
each coin = 1 Euro "20-100 coins Only"
registerd postal :
20 coin = 35 Euro +20 Euro = 55
50 coins = 80 Euro + 50 = 130
100 Coins = 120 Euro + 100 = 220
Kazem Aghapour, email@example.com
12. WBCC Auction 70 accepting lots ......by Rod Sell, WBCC Auction
I am accepting lots for WBCC Auction 70. The lots listed so far can be seen
Please email your lots to me at Rod.Sell@elderwyn.com
See you next week.
Martin Peeters, Focal Point of the Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors
The Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club (WBCC)
was established September 14, 1996 and is the very first
Worldwide Collectors Club using the Internet. Goal of the
WBCC is exchange Bi-metallics and exchange knowledge about
WBCC Webmaster & Auction
Provider, Rod Sell,
WBCC DoCu-Centre: Frans Dubois, Netherlands.
WBCC Public Relations: Cliff Anderson,USA.
WBCC Research Centre: Paul Baker, UK.
WBCC Developement Centre: Jack Hepler, USA.
WBCC ANA Focal Point: Ray Lockwood, USA.
WBCC Focal Point: Martin Peeters, Netherlands
Bi-metallic Forum Page
The WBCC was sponsored at the Basel World Money Fair
Schuler Presses, Germany, http://www.schulergroup.com
The Portuguese Mint (INCM), http://www.incm.pt