Worldwide Bi-Metallic Collectors Club
Newsmail #429


WBCC Newsmail 429, Volume 9, October 30, 2004

Composed with help from members of the
Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club (WBCC),
and weekly published by: Martin Peeters,
Netherlands, Focal Point of the WBCC


Dear WBCC members and non WBCC members,

Welcome into the World of Bi-metallics. I hope you enjoy reading the WBCC
Newsmail this week.

1. A new WBCC Martin Peeters, WBCC Focal Point
We have a new WBCC member. Let me introduce him to you:
Name: Krishnakumar Menon (WBCC member #354), India
Age: 34
Profession: Owns a Computer Firm
Hobby: World coins Bi-metallics and non Bi-metalic comemeratives, specialising in Hole coins.
Goal: To become a Known Numismatist
Against: Fakes
How did I know about the WBCC:While Browsing the net for coins.
2. Bi-metallic coins from Francisco Pascual, Spain
Here are the images of Bi-metallic Turkish 1 and 50 Yeni coin.
You can see here the rest of the new coins in the Dünya newspaper
WBCC member Hans Bucek added:
The full story on the new turkish Bi-metallic lira is the following:
From Dünya online news:
The new Turkish lira, set to begin officially circulating next year, has been publicly unveiled by Central Bank Governor Sureyya Serdengecti at a press conference today.
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, State Minister for the Economy Ali Babacan, and Treasury Undersecretary Ibrahim Canakci were also present.
The new Turkish lira, which drops six zeros, is due to circulate together next year alongside the old lira.
Serdengecti said that the New Turkish lira (YTL) had a number of security features. "Turkey will remove six zeros from the current Turkish lira (TL) by the end of 2004, which means 1 YTL note will be equal to 1 million TL and 100 kurus will equal 1 YTL, and the YTL will go into circulation on Jan. 1, 2005", said Serdengecti. "YTL and current TL will be in joint circulation during 2005 withthe TL being completely withdrawn from circulation by the end of 2005. Therefore, the Turkish people will have enough time to become familiar with YTL", he added. "In order to prevent any confusion and help our citizens to become familiar with YTL, the new banknotes were prepared in similar color, illustration and images as the TL banknotes. There are distinctive features in YTL for the blind people," he stressed.
Yeni is the turkish word for NEW. So you say 50 yeni Kurush (new Kurush), equal to 500'000 current circulating Lira and 1 yeni Lira (new Lira), equal to 1'000'000 (one million) current circulating Lira or equal to about one Euro in exchange.
3. Bi-metallic from Manuel Gonzalez, Spain
Here is the image new Bi-metallic 2 Pound from Gibraltar 2004 "Capturing of Gibraltar".
4. Bi-metallic from Falkland Francisco Pascual, Spain
New Bi-metallic 2 Pound 2004 of Falkland celebrating the "30th years of the Falkland islands own coinage".
The coin is bi-metallic with the center of Cupro-nickel and the ring of Nickel-brass; weight 12.00 grams and diameter 28.40mm
5. Bi-metallics dated 2004 for West African Paul Baker, UK
In WBCC Newsmail 383, Item 3, I detailed how the Central Bank of the West African States had set 24/Dec/2003 as the release date for two new Bi-metallic coin denominations - 200 and 500 Franc-CFA. Those first coins were indeed released towards the end of 2003 and all were dated 2003. I got some of each of these new West African States types in January 2004 from a contact of mine in the region. In August 2004 that contact told me he had some 2004 dated pieces of the 200 and 500 Franc-CFA coins. Now I have got one of each of these coins from him.

Surprise ! I found that these 2004 dated pieces are different to those of 2003. The 2003 pieces had been the first West African States coins to be without the privy marks of the French Mint. The (British) Royal Mint in their annual report of 2003-04 confirmed, through images, that they had struck the 2003 dated 200 and 500 Franc-CFA coins. This contract was the main overseas circulating coinage contract to be mentioned in the report. My 2004 dated pieces must have been made not by the (British) Royal Mint but by the French Mint. They differ a little on each side - primarily through the use of privy marks and designer's initials.

The designer's initials "RJ" (for Raymond Joly) have been added, for the 2004 dated pieces, next to the large fish weight image on the obverse. Then on the reverse, of the 2004 dated pieces, the dash before the date has been replaced by the cornucopia privy mark (for the mint) and the dash after the date has been replaced by the privy mark of Hubert Larivière. This new privy mark for the "Engraver General" was introduced on 1/Jul/2003. Mr Larivière, the manager of the mint's engraving workshop formed his privy mark from elements representing a French horn, a few waves and the silhouette of a fish. Further info on these two privy marks can be seen at:

Other lesser differences can be seen between the 2003 and 2004 dated issues. The font used for the main legends can be seen to vary slightly. One distinct difference from one font to the next being that the "E" used on the 2003 dated pieces has a serif on the second horizontal stroke and that on the 2004 dated pieces does not have such a serif. The main images on these coins also vary slightly from one date to the next, firstly through differences generally in relief and secondly through several other very slight differences. The clearest of these differences is to be seen on the 500 Franc-CFA coins. The berries adjacent to the "5" in "500" are of much bolder dots on the 2004 dated pieces as compared to those on the 2003 dated pieces.
6. Bi-metallic inlay from the Wladek Gebczyk, Poland
I have in my collection the Inlay Medal from DDR/ Germany:
diameter - 60 mm
material - white metal/ oxidized
Inlay - metal gold plated and enamelled
7. Bi-metallic Fantasy Jose Luis Ramirez, Spain
I have made a photograph to my 5 Europ coin from Iceland.
This morning I have received the Euro Fantasy set from Russia, yes the set have two bimetallics. Tomorrow I will made the photos to the coins.
This set from Russia have a mistake on the word "patterns" that are printed in the folder, the makers of the coins says patetrns, look at the image of Cape Verde folder, is the same mistake. The set from Armenia have the same mistake. The set from Ukraine are diferent. When I will receive the set from Armenia and Ukraine, if these set have bimetallics I will send to you the images.
8. The WBCC Bi-metallic Quiz Game Jack Hepler, USA
The Bi-metallic Euro of which country includes the image of an owl?
a. Austria.
b. Greece.
c. Luxembourg.
d. Spain.
Please send your answer to me:
Note: The image of this coin may be seen on the WBCC Website at
Answer to Bi-metallic Quiz Game question #428.
The Bi-metallic Five Bolivianos of Bolivia includes the image of which of the following plants?
a. Guacari Tree.
b. Bauhinia.
c. Arbol de Pan.
d. Cacao..
Answer to Question #428 is "c"; Arbol de Pan or Breadfruit Tree.

9. WBCC Quiz Game Jack Hepler, USA
A Bi-metallic prize will be awarded to a member who correctly answers the WBCC Quiz Game this week (#429). If more than one member gets the correct answer, a random drawing will be conducted to select a winner. The winner in quiz game #427 was Claudio Revello (member #207).  There were 11 players in #427.
10. New Bi- or Tri-metallic Rod Sell, WBCC Webmaster
The new Bi- and Tri-metallic images shown at:
New listed are:
*Gibraltar 2004 2 pound
* Mexico 100 Peso Nuevo Leon
* East German inlay 60mm medal, gold plated and enamelled
* Russian Euro fantasy pattern
* Iceland 5 Euro fantasy pattern
* Turkey 2005 1YTL
* Thailand 10 bath 2004 200th birthday of Rama 4 (bald king on the right)
* Thailand 10 baht 2003 Rama 9 coin for the fight to be free of Drugs (king on the left)
* Turkey 2005 50 KurusGB 2005 2Pounds
11. Bi-metallic fron Kazem Aghapour, Iran

If you intrested to Iranian new Bi-metallic 500 rls, I can offer you in very low price.
each coin = 1 Euro "20-100 coins Only"
registerd postal :
20 coin = 35 Euro +20 Euro = 55
50 coins = 80 Euro + 50 = 130
100 Coins = 120 Euro + 100 = 220
Kazem Aghapour,
12. WBCC Auction 70 accepting lots Rod Sell, WBCC Auction Provider
I am accepting lots for WBCC Auction 70. The lots listed so far can be seen at:
Please email your lots to me at
See you next week
Martin Peeters, Focal Point of the Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club


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