Worldwide Bi-Metallic Collectors Club
Newsmail # 652

WBCC Newsmail 652 Volume 15, February 7, 2008

Composed with help from members of the
Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club (WBCC),
and weekly published by: Martin Peeters,  Netherlands,
Focal Point of the WBCC

this week assisted by Cliff Anderson

Past Newsmails can be found at

Dear WBCC members and non WBCC members,
Welcome into the World of Bi, Tri and Quad-metallics. I hope you enjoy reading
this week's issue of the WBCC Newsmail. .

1. The WBCC and WMF 2009 in Berlin (Part-4) Martin Peeters, WBCC Focal Point

<>As I mentioned before, we are the World Money Fair in Berlin.  Check it out at:

During the WMF there is a Liva cam from the Fair Floor. Take a look at:


The WBCC WMF Team at the WBCC Booth K-4 will be:
* Frans Dubois, Netherlands
* Max and Carlo Aiello, Italy
* Jack Hepler, USA

* Alexei Malykh, Russia
* Martin Peeters, Netherlands


As of this week, the following WBCC members said they will attend the WMF in Berlin:

* Jacek Stącel, Poland                       * Jeff Starck, USA

* Darek Matyja, Poland                      * Frans Dubois, Netherlands
* Gerhard Schon, Germany               * Max and Carlo Aiello, Italy

* Wolfgang Schuster, Austria             * Jack Hepler, USA

* Bruce Tupholme, Portugal               * Alexei Malykh, Russia

* Martin Peeters, Netherlands


1a.  Live from the World Money Fair Berlin…by Martin Peeters
It is Friday and the WBCC is at WMF in Berlin Germany and this is a live report from the fair.
The WBCC Team is Frans Dubois, Max and Carlo Aiello, Jack Hepler and Martin Peeters, as shown here:



The first day of the fair is very busy, and everyone wants the (Bi-metallic) coins, especially from Germany, Japan Mint and Luxembourg. There are long lines at the booths of these mints.
Several members have already visited us at the WBCC booth.  And at the WBCC booth we had a microscope connected to my laptop, with which one can more closely examine the coins.



<>2.  Encased pieces from Tom Passon, Netherlands
Souvenir of the Colonial Exposition 1931 held in Paris, France. Aluminium frame with a 5 centimes 1930 type Lindauer. Obverse: Horseshoe with text AVEC MOI JAMAIS SANS L’SOU (With me never without a nickel) and a four leave clover. Seen in Numismatique et Change, No. 401, February 2009, page 19.


3.  Counterfeit bimetallics                -- Jose L. Ramirez

<>Recently, WBCC member Jose Ramirez noted that the 2 following eBay auctions featured bimetallic counterfeits of Daniel Carr’s “2 roller” pieces.


Carr’s original designs are as follows.


The fakes, apparently minted in China, are these.



Numismatic designer Daniel Carr wrote:

In early 2009, a seller in Hong Kong sold the coins shown below on eBay (item numbers 110339138535 and 110339137670 ). These are unauthorized copies of coins that I originally minted several years prior to 2009 (but with a "2009" date). The Chinese counterfeits have obvious similarities and differences. The most notable difference being the poorly-defined details, especially the "Mr. Bill" representation of the Astronaut's face. Note that the copies have the designers initials ("DC") on both sides and the "D" mint mark on the obverse - just like the genuine article. The counterfeits are reportedly larger than the originals - 35mm in diameter rather than 30mm. The fakes appear to have a white metal center (probably nickel). There are two different types of forgeries - one with a brass-colored outer ring and one with a copper-colored outer ring. The type I produced was 30mm in diameter with a 999 silver center (1/4 troy oz) and a brass outer ring (with satin and proof-like finishes). In 2008 I sold out of my mintage of these and have not offered any for sale since then.


I just put up an alert on my web site regarding them:

Unfortunately, nobody in the government seems interested in stopping Chinese piracy.”


Ramirez also noticed some recent bimetallic Cabinda coins on eBay that might also have been counterfeited.


See Ramirez’s own bimetallic catalog at

And his webpage is at


4.  New Belgium bimetallic                -- Grzegorz Stateczny (WBCC member #462)

2 Euro Belgium 2009
2 € - 200 anniversary of the birth of L. Braille
BU in the blister: 5 000 pieces
Price: € 9 --
Prooflike in case: 5 000 pieces
Price: € 18.50
Date of issue: September



5. Bi-metallic Quiz Game Jack Hepler, USA

The image of a Spalax is found on a Russian Bi-metallic 50 Roubles.  The
Spalax belongs to what family of animals?
a. Rodents.
b. Felines.
c. Canines.
d. Bovines.

See this coin and others at the WBCC website:
Please send your answer to:


6. New Bi-, Tri-, or Tetra-metallic Rod Sell, WBCC Webmaster

The new Bi-, Tri-, or Tetra-metallic images shown at:

Poland 2 tokens from city Szczyrk 1 Pound
Souvenir of the Colonial Exposition 1931 held in Paris

"See you"next week,

Martin Peeters, Focal Point of the Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club

The Worldwide Bi-metallic Collectors Club (WBCC) was established September 14, 1996 and is the very first Worldwide Collectors Club using the Internet.
Goal of the WBCC is exchange Bi-, Tri-, and Tetra-metallics and exchange knowledge about Bi-, Tri-, and Tetra-metallics

WBCC Organisation:
WBCC Webmaster: Rod Sell, Australia,
WBCC Sales Pages Provider: Rod Sell,
WBCC DoCu-Centre: Frans Dubois, Netherlands,
WBCC Public Relations: Cliff Anderson, USA,
WBCC Research Centre: Paul Baker, UK,
WBCC Developement Centre: Jack Hepler, USA,
WBCC Focal Point ANA Conventions: Ray Lockwood, USA,
WBCC Focal Point: Martin Peeters, Netherlands,
WBCC Website:
WBCC Web-Log:

The WBCC will attend the following future International events:

* 38th World Money Fair, February 6 to 8, 2009 in Berlin, Germany,

* Open Day of the Royal Dutch Mint, Saterday June 13, 2009, Utrecht, The Netherlands

* 6th Coin Event Numismatica Herentals, Sunday December 13, 2009, Herentals Belgium,

* 9th Northern Coin Event 2009, Saturday September 19, 2009, Assen, The Netherlands,

* 39th World Money Fair, January 29 to 31, 2010 in Berlin, Germany

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